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Seems there's been some criticism of health MOTs for the over 40s. But surely, when one of the biggest killers - "cancer", if detected early enough can be treatable, surely health screening the population makes sense?

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One of the disadvantages of the tests is that when "faults" are found during these MOTs  doctors are prescribing  medication. I think the government prefer to keep people in the dark to save the cost of all these drugs & i am sure that in time it will bring down life expectancy & save on the pensions bill.

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One of the disadvantages of the tests is that when "faults" are found during these MOTs  doctors are prescribing  medication. I think the government prefer to keep people in the dark to save the cost of all these drugs & i am sure that in time it will bring down life expectancy & save on the pensions bill.

Davy, "you have hit the nail on the head", I had a body 'MOT' last week (expecting a remark from Wolfie anytime now) and my Doc' picked up on something and has refered me to the 'Warrington Wolves Primary Care Centre' (keep your eye on the Wolves team sheet I could be picked for the next game), serious enough to also send me for a blood test this morning, really not complaining as when you become older you expect these things to encroach on your health!, however if I had not had that medical it would have not been detected and resulted in future complications. Years ago at Bupa (now Spire) at Stretton I had a conversation with a specialist who was very irate and said quite angrily that the government of the day (which at that time was Labour, so don't expect any change in policy if they come to power) was practicing euthanasia on the old folk of this country, so in my book on this subject all parties are 'peeing in the same pot'. :x

 

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I can't argue with that, always remember a visit to the doctor with acute pains in my leg. He did the usual prodding and poking and bending of the leg and then announced it was just me getting old. I was 30 at the time :cry:  :cry:  :cry:

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it shouldn't just be "a visit to your GP" imo; a full body scan, chest X-ray etc , should be standard; as it seems these can locate cancers before symptoms start to appear; once symptoms do appear, it can be too late. So instead of prevention , we're chasing the disease into more expensive and often futile treatment through the hospital and care systems.

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But governments of every persuasion wince at the thought of longer life expectancy.....that is why they are pushing to increase the pension age. Originally when it was set at 65 /60 the idea was that only a few people would reach their goal & actually be able to claim  the pension so netting the government lots of unclaimed contributions.

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 I had a body 'MOT' last week (expecting a remark from Wolfie anytime now) and my Doc' picked up on something and has refered me to the 'Warrington Wolves Primary Care  

Hope all is well alg and nothing serious.

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Dave, the elephant in the room is the fact that folk ARE living longer, irrespective of lifestyles; but not necessarily living longer in good health. In which case, it's a double whammy for Governments, as not only will pensions continue to be paid out, BUT an even bigger bill is caused by the overloading of the NHS and care services by the elderly (it's already happening, just visit the hospital). Periodic health checks would be a means of avoiding expensive invasive and protracted treatments, often after the horse has bolted, and maintaining a fit and employable population.

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Hope all is well alg and nothing serious.

Thank's Wolfie, I'm not worrying too much as I have received the appointment through the post at lunchtime, the date I go is Nov 12th so either there is a long queue due to the hot sunny spell we had or they don't think it's serious enough to go sooner.

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I recon Mrs Algy has dobbed you in about the amount of time you spend with your computer, new camera and also on here Algy so they are just monitoring you for the next few months (without your knowledge) to be on the safe side and to note what effects such events may have on a persons blood pressure, stress levels (up or down?) and of course brain activity too for a future publication of findings :wink: 

 

OMG why has the word  guinea pig just sprung to mind after typing that...... and even worse why it was followed by the other word thought of 'Armageddon'.... I'll strangle my bloody son one day..  !!  

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Yes Obs , thanks to improvements in medicines ,innoculations ,better food ,housing & general living conditions most people are living longer so why do the government want to throw a spanner in the works  of health MOTs ? I am sure  they would be pleased for the BUPA subscribed  classes to continue with their health checks but the government are not so keen to foot the bill for NHS funded checks. 

 

Look after yourself Algy !

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I have said for years that people should have a full MRI scan every 5? years when they reach 50, for the reasons given. Prevention must be cheaper than trying to cure something when it is probably too late.

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Actually Dave, I don't think this has come from the Gov, but from some GPs;  maybe they can't spare the time for this kind of work, since Labour gave them more money for less hours !

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Funny you should say that Obs ,whenever i go to the doctors i'm usually early for my appointment but have to wait at least 10/15 minutes to be seen ,but nobody comes out so has the doctor just been sat there killing time ?

 

Bring back the days of just turning up at the surgery with 40 or 50 other people suffering from every disease & ailment known to science & sitting for a couple of hours till it was your turn.

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Well I agree with Obs and Pete, shock horror exclusive, I think that regular check-ups are important, especially for men who tend to ignore their ailments and try and tough it out.

 

Yes there are GP's who miss things and waiting times aren't always on schedule.

 

If you are not happy change your GP then do as I did leave and go to one that someone you know and trust recommends.

 

We are living longer but better to live longer in health than ill-health and be a burden on the NHS with something that could have been managed and possibly cured. This can of course have it's down side such as living longer and therefore a drain on the pension funds but surely that is what actuaries are employed to assess and advise pension fund managers on, however having said this if they get it wrong and the investment fund managers miss-judge the sticks and shares etc......

 

It's your choice get a regular check-up and follow the doctor's advice if they detect something i.e. high blood pressure, cancer, obesity.

 

If they don't know :evil:  then ask to be referred to a specialist or seek a 2nd opinion - we also should be taking better care of ourselves and attempt to keep at least moderately fit and healthy - easier said than done after the age of 40 when ........ :oops: we start to struggle or is 60 the new 40 :?:

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