Lt Kije Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 Again Obs, good post, sadly for us we hardly make anything to export these days, And most of the exporting companies are foreign owned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latchford Locks Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 There were large numbers of sailors stationed at Stretton during the war; many awaiting repatriation to "Vichy" France. The big fight at the Casino, started with the Poles (who hated the French for dropping their slacks to the Germans). Believe the fight spilled out along Bridge St and was finally kettled in Queens Gardens. So my Dad tells me anyway! Where was "The Casino" ? I've never heard of it before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 Where was "The Casino" ? I've never heard of it before... LL, it was above Burtons at Market Gate on the meeting of Horsemarket St and Buttermarket St. Heres an interesting bit of information about the club. GIs and the Race Bar in Wartime Warrington | History Today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 The Carlton club I went to was in Sankey St Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latchford Locks Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 LL, it was above Burtons at Market Gate on the meeting of Horsemarket St and Buttermarket St.Heres an interesting bit of information about the club. GIs and the Race Bar in Wartime Warrington | History Today Cheers algy ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 Again Obs, good post, sadly for us we hardly make anything to export these days, And most of the exporting companies are foreign owned. I'm sorry Lt Kije, but I can't let that one pass without comment: http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/exports And does it matter who owns the companies? What matters is the income for the UK. Note that 85% of exports are MANUFACTURED PRODUCTS not the "services" that critics like to pretend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 Kije won't listen.... it wont fit his Euro agenda if the UK is doing OK thank you very much..... he does down the UK at every opportunity to the point where he ignores the massive achievements this small island nation has done and prefers to big up things like 3 Frenchmen in a boat were part of the Atlantic convoys or the fact that the US helped us to win the war even though Britain kept the Nazis at bay for over 2 years until the Yanks joined in.... He appears to me to be ashamed to be British and ashamed of our past.... the fact that we had an Empire and were the greatest nation on earth for hundreds of years doesn't fit well with him..... He is like Tony Blair.... apologising for slavery and apologising for other things in the distant past. He really would be better going to live in Belgium or Holland or some other nation other than ours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 Asp, it does matter who owns the companies, as a lot of Japanese companies are here because we are in the EU, and will leave if we leave, Baz I have an interest in WW2, you seem to get your history of WW2 from films, all I was doing was correcting your incorrect assumptions you get from the films. Anyone that does not hero worship Great Britain the same way you do is a traitor in your eyes, on this issue I agreed with Obs, I see your not having ago at him, odd. Has it ever occurred to you your analysis of what happen in France is wrong. The British army in France made the same mistake as the French army, and were beaten to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 Asp, it does matter who owns the companies, as a lot of Japanese companies are here because we are in the EU, and will leave if we leave, Now why would they put themselves to all that trouble and expense? I take it you are withdrawing your previous comment about the dearth of manufacturing and exports in the UK then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 What % of GDP from exports Asp?, Is it up are down as an average from are Prime Empire days, when we made everything and sold to our Empire? Are we going back to subject now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 You could look this up for yourself, however manufacturing accounts for about 12% of our GDP, around the same as most of our European neighbours apart from Germany. Trying to compare this with the days of Empire is a bit inane though as the world is a much different place now thanks to the spread of industrialisation to all four corners. Certainly lets go back to the topic we started with, but don't lose sight of who took us down the track of the death of British manufacturing - YOU!! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 Inane for you Asp, because it would show up how far own manufacturing has come, compared to the heady days, Loss of Empire took alot of manufacturing out, Then Maggie abandoned it, for she fell in love with the city, and every government we have had since has followed her. Now back to the war, and don't forget don't mention the Germans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 Use your brain for once Lt Kije. Once the countries that comprised the former Empire became industrialised and started manufacturing their own products it is obvious that the former industrial powerhouses' outputs would shrink. As our own manufacturing share of GDP is comparable to that of our EU neighbours it rather shoots your pathetic outpourings down. And if the best you can come up with is going back to blame Maggie again then you really do have my pity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 Use your brain Asp, The Empire Countries had to buy from the UK, when they were set free they could buy anywhere, why do you think the Americans wanted rid, they wanted the markets, and slowly they did start to develop their own industry. And no t does not, as most other European Countries did not have an Empire to trade with, and those that did were no where near as big. The UK used to be known as a manurfacturing nation, yes we manufacture still, but besides BEA systems most are no longer British Companies, you seem to think that doe not matter, I disagree I think it matters a lot. We could discuss that more but I suggest we start another thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 Again Obs, good post, sadly for us we hardly make anything to export these days, This is what you said about the UK Lt Kije. Now I've shown that you are totally wrong you are trying to squirm out of it instead of being honest and admitting it. Grow up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 We hardly do make anything Asp compared to what we used to make, sorry I should have made it a bit more obvious for you, but I thought when I mentioned GDP you might have got it, My mistake. So that makes you wrong and out on a limb. Don't mind discussing this more but do you not think we should start another thread. Or you could always take your pedantic head off. You always fail when you try this with me as you are to eager to have a go without actually bothering to take in. Now give it a rest or start another thread, and let this one go back to the War and the battle of the Atlantic Always being Pedantic, and being proud of it Asp makes you the more immature, And you were making great leaps I suppose every recovery must have its falls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 You are totally wrong in everything you have said but are so small minded you are unwilling to recognise it. If you were willing to listen to anybody else's views you might educate yourself but you aren't able to remove your cranium from your anus. Goodbye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 You are totally wrong in everything you have said but are so small minded you are unwilling to recognise it. If you were willing to listen to anybody else's views you might educate yourself but you aren't able to remove your cranium from your anus. Goodbye. This coming from Mr Pedantic, you couldn't make it up, Try being less pedantic and in such a hurry to catch people out, and you wouldn't get stuck so often and have to resort to childish insults to get out of your self made mess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 What our reliance on re-supply by convoys during the war, did show., is the difficulty (at least at that time) of the UK to be self sufficient; and the U-boat threat was Churchill's only fear throughout the war. However, whether more could have been done to increase self sufficiency, I don't really know; but in the 2 year siege of Leningrad, with a precarious supply line across Lake Ladoga, the Russians managed (eating sawdust amongst other strange things); and losing more lives in that one City, than the whole of the UK/USA losses during the war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 At the beginning and until the American production started to kick in we just could not produce enough ships. Slowly the liberty ships started to have an effect along with new technology that started to take the battle to the Germans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 .... and of course when the Americans found that enigma machine on U571 the war only ever going to go one way! !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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