Cleopatra Posted May 25, 2013 Report Share Posted May 25, 2013 Those amazing people in parliament known as the tories are considering limiting the number of visits you make to your doctor per year. Can you imagine it....? Hello, Dr Feelgood's surgery, how may I help you? I need to make an appointment to see Dr Feelgood please? What name is it please? Mrs Payne. Hang on one moment Mrs Payne, I will see when Dr Feelgood is available...... Hello, Mrs Payne...? Hello. I'm awfully sorry but you have already used up your quota of visits. I can make you an appointment for January 6th next year. January 6th next year!? But it's only July this year now! I would be dead before then! Sorry Mrs Payne, it's the rule and you have already used your quota of visits for this year. All I can suggest is that you hang on in there and try not to die till next year..... Ohhh...! Uggggggh....! Hello....? Mrs Payne....? Hello.....? Are you there Mrs Payne....? Mrs Payne, are you ok.....? Bloody hell! I think Mrs Payne just died of a heart attack doctor. Good! One less chronically sick patient to bother about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 do they have doctors in Egypt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted May 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 There are many good doctors in Egypt and would you believe it...? We even have hospitals too and there is one just two minutes walk away from here, just at the end of our street and across th road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 I went a few weeks ago & was there at least 10 minutes early , there was only me in the waiting room but it was at least 20 minutes after my appointed time before i got in to see the doctor. I think it must have been tea break time though because no other patient came out before i went in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Successive Governments have now dabbled with the NHS to the point, where we now have an organisational dog's dinner, dressed in a façade of efficiency. By it's very nature, the NHS is expensive; it being labour intensive; a victim of it's own success with costly advances in it's technical potential; with questionable procurement expenses; and with a growing demographic of demand by the elderly. The last Labour Gov's deal with GPs, has really put a spanner in the works, with the failure of out of hours services and 111 to compensate, with the resultant over-loading of A&E. The biggest health employer in the world, now with a global clientele, really needs to treat itself before it's decline becomes terminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Can't say I have ever had a problem with Doctors or the NHS in general. When my relatives in America visit they can't believe how good it is compared to their system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 As I'm currently taking my Dad through a process with the NHS, I've gained some insight into it's structural failings; however the dedication of most of it's staff seems to be overcoming these disadvantages at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 My Doctor and he says many more, are retiring because of the way the NHS has gone thanks to Government interference. The job is no longer what they signed up for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 I wanted to be a doctor..... I just didn't have the patients!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 What I find strange about the new GPs system, is the requirement to phone in before 8am on the day of booking - but your not allowed to phone and book the day before, anyone know why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Two reasons for that one. 1 you might get better and not go. 2 you might die in your sleep and thus don't need to go. Both classed as a wasted appointment if you have pre-booked and a waste of the doctors time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Thanks Sid, there's a glimmer of logic there - somewhere ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 obs. Before 8 am??? Our surgery is still on the cover(locum) shift. They don't switch over to the surgery until 8 am. You can then make appointments for that day if you are lucky. You can also, if available, book online appointments for about 10 days time. Hardly surprising that people go to A & E and clutter that system up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockcutting Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Aren't the "Observers/Moderators" on the Warrington Worldwide Forum supposed to be independant? (ie without any political bias). Why, therefore, has this statement been allowed to be published ? The last Labour Gov's deal with GPs, has really put a spanner in the works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Indeed it has ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Observer is not a moderator, He pretends he is all seeing, but most of the time he asks his next door neighbour, who doesn't see anything and doesn't like children of Jonny foreigner going to our schools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Unlike yourself of course, who can't "see anything" due to your head being firmly buried in the sand, and your rear raised to the heavens ! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Aren't the "Observers/Moderators" on the Warrington Worldwide Forum supposed to be independant? (ie without any political bias). Why, therefore, has this statement been allowed to be published ? . Well your statement has got me completely baffled RockCutting but you like doing that eh Very bizarre and confusing to say the least. Which 'statement' are you referring to ? Do you mean the general post reply by Peter who just happens to be a moderator as well as a normal poster (if of course the words 'Peter' and 'normal' can go together ..... he will get me for that..... ) or another post by someone else ? Blimey have you got a complete downer on 'moderators' based on a really bad previous life experience somewhere else ? Would you like to share it with us all as it might make you feel better Crikey you need to get over it or you might even accuse us moderators of deleting topics next when it hasn't actually been the case Have you ever considered talking to your doctor about it ... if you can get an appointment of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Dizzy, Post 5 by obs. I don't recall a meeting re promoting obs? I thought that was what we did on the Forum, "have a go at politicians". And so far, we have been fairly gentle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Dizzy, Post 5 by obs. Thanks Peter although RC's comments/complaint are still not any clearer to me now I know which post/person it refers too. Even if Obs was a moderator and had said the same I still wouldn't get it or the 'problem' with it. I hope RC will explain and put me out of my misery confusion so I don't have another sleepless night pondering. Hey there's a thought though. I recon Obs would make a fun moderator and I'm happy for him to take over from me if Gary will allow it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 Nooooo chance Diz, toooo much responsibility and flak ! Getting back to the NHS: we now have stats, that suggest Friday is a bad time for an operation - would you risk it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Apparently this is because surgeons schedule operations on patients who need more post-operative care (i.e. patients who are more likely not to survive surgery) for the end of the week, giving the 2 days over the weekend for this extra care. The number of patients who don't survive the operation on Fridays is therefore statistically greater because they are the ones most at risk in any case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Wow, I didn't know that, And will bare it in mind if I ever need an operation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Apparently this is because surgeons schedule operations on patients who need more post-operative care (i.e. patients who are more likely not to survive surgery) for the end of the week, giving the 2 days over the weekend for this extra care. Doesn't seem to tie in with the fact that there are less staff in over a weekend, and surgeons in general don't work weekends. " a failure to rescue the patient could be due to well-known issues relating to reduced or locum staffing and poorer availability of services over a weekend. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egbert Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 I think Rockcutting was probably referring to the criticism of "the last Labour government" over its GP contract. Not sure why he should, seeing as I heard one of the Shadow ministers admitting they had made a mess of it the other day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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