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  1. Green Belt homes plan is madness

    Dizzy, The reason I said incomers is that I was using the top end price ( middle of the range of top 25% of rental figures) for houses with four or more bedrooms. A family relocating to the town would need to acquire such a property and could not just stay with parents etc. a little longer, they need a large family of their own straight away. That is why I suggested incomers, just like New Town days but on a bigger scale -- New City perhaps. I suspect that is the linkage to New City by the way and New Town 2 doesn't work because the council criticised the New Town so much. Anyway turning to youngsters I make the assumption that there will be a mix of properties and two bed properties are provided to act as starter homes, they would need to be build with a cost of £550 a month to count as affordable, (based on 2 bed median costs, the upper quartile is £626/month). So that is £6600 total cost per annum (rent + mortgage, to allow for shared ownership) but excluding any service charges. All the other costs you mention are on top. The DCLG figures give a range of family types of varying ages and sizes . They suggest the number of dwellings needed for each type of family. The challenge for the council is to grow the total housing stock to fill the gap between what is the predicted need and what already exists. That means that you cannot look at any development in isolation. They all have to contribute to the mix. That is the purpose of development briefs for local areas which are then used to help developers put forward sensible mixes of house types. I cannot see that the Appleton price tag will survive and I surmise that it is necessary to keep the new lower priced properties as a separate community which cannot be compared in price with the current up-market south. The existing houses were built at prices to reflect the cost of compulsory purchase of the land, which was not necessary in most of the rest of the New Town. The high prices also often led to M56 accessed employment (Manchester and Chester) in order to sustain the mortgages reducing the demand for car trips to North Warrington which would needed the bridge and expressway that the Council prevented from being built by objecting to them as not yet needed. Well that is my theory anyway!
  2. Green Belt homes plan is madness

    Obs, All your material questions are answered in the consultation document set. In addition you cannot ask for a judicial review on a decision which has not been taken and what they are doing does not need to conform with the LDP (i.e. core strategy) because the consultation is about a replacement LDP. Requiring conformance with the old plan would make any change impossible wouldn't it? I note that the figures include a backdated number for the two years since the quashing order for the Omega housing clauses and that the figures out to 2037 are 50% larger than the DCLG forecasts made on a 2014 base. It is also true that since 2014 net migration into Warrington from other parts of the UK as well as abroad have fallen. There will be a new estimate by ONS on a 2018 base and there is no certainty that it will justify even the lower number. What that means is that they are ensuring there is a supply of land for housing which will not necessarily all be built on by 2037. The process requires that they ensure that a future supply of land can be identified. I often criticise the council when they do things wrong so, with regret, I must defend them when they are probably right. I expect someone will chirp up that I am wrong but affordable is something like 80% of Local market rent. There are statistics produced by the Valuation Office Agency and Warrington's local market rent is set across the Borough as a whole so the hints that current prices are too high to afford in Appleton are irrelevant. The rental figures are I think the same one use to test is rent is too high for housing Benefit. A cost above the affordable rental cost applies when home are bought as affordable, I don't know the details but presumably it tends to 100% of the outlay for local market rent, excluding service charges. As an example, for Warrington the 4 bed upper quartile was £1298 in year to March 17 (the median was £1050). I guess someone cleverer than me can work out what the purchase price would be for a home 20% rented and 80% purchased on a mortgage such that the total monthly outgoings do not exceed £1300 per month. Whatever amount it is, the family will need to find up to £16k per year, is that really not possible for incomers to Warrington?
  3. Dial-a-Ride, important service or not

    Sorry Geoff but I expect the answer to be that you should wash the buses like you need to anyway.
  4. Green Belt homes plan is madness

    The answer is complicated! The detailed location of the green belt parcels is in this document https://www.warrington.gov.uk/download/downloads/id/11803/green_belt_assessment_appendix_f_oct_2016pdf.pdf The area within the boundary of the New Town is not Green Belt according to case law.
  5. Green Belt homes plan is madness

    Sha, I have alluded to this in respect of South Warrington before. Those houses are the only way of getting sufficient revenue to pay the interest on the roads that need to be built to get us out of the mess we are in because the council did not let the New Town and Cheshire County Council build the Expressways and the new high level bridge. Lurking in the references to the PDO is a new road from Guardian Street to Birchwood Way via Matalan. There is also the new road from Knutsford Road to Parker Street via Brian Bevan Island in there as an indistinct line on the Garden City Plan. Taken together they are as big a change as the Western link to the traffic flows around the town. FWIW I don't think the City thing is any more than a short hand for getting enlargement. Steve P is correct that City status is irrelevant in planning terms, in fact it is irrelevant in every way and there is no way that building more houses will make it happen. Warrington does not have the regional significance in any field that would justify it being granted letters patent by the Crown, Every year that goes by and the council reduces the significance and attractiveness of the town makes City status go further away. This is an inevitable consequence of where we are, stuck between two major regional centres, as well as the historical and cultural significance of those centres.
  6. Road humps ?

    Given the lack of generating capacity how are electric cars going to work then. Batteries to store the solar during the day and then charge cars at night via more batteries. That's not going to incur any inefficiencies at all is it. Oh and the batteries are never going to need replacing are they? I think the greens have taken over the asylum.
  7. Well when the M6 is blocked traffic aiming for all points north will avoid Warrington town centre and turn up at the end of the Western Link, well a large fraction of it will. At the moment it blocks the Cockhedge roundabout, Bridgefoot, the A50 and the A49 with slow moving traffic which then delays everything else. Why do you want that "extra" traffic to go down Liverpool Old Road or Barnard Street?
  8. Sid, I suspect the tuning bit is where you work out what preferences the drivers exhibit and assume they will behave the same in terms of what drives choices, distance time or variability in the new layout. The kind of model they seem to have works out flows from node to node and doesn't assume much more than demand and capacity of links. I don't think it tells you anything about lane markings. They will still be wrong because it seems to be a real blind spot as you point out. So the modelling process it is able to make a guess or a scenario but it can always be wrong. However it is better than no guess. As an aside you will probably see that they do not even know if the western link needs to be a single or dual carriageway until the modelling is done. For Milky, the plan for the routes show a flyover at David Lloyd. I don't suppose they know for sure if a flyover is needed but they suspect so hence warned us by putting it on the plan. For the amount of extra traffic that the possible flyover suggests the lights at Barnard Street and Penketh Lane Ends would seize up in no time. Also Old Liverpool Road is limited to 30mph as a residential street whereas Sankey Way is faster and can carry a greater volume of traffic. Barnard Street is not a very safe route with dangerous footways, I wouldn't dream of putting large volumes down there as it is a walking route from the Housing Estate off Forrest Way to Evelyn Street school.
  9. Geoff, I have already asked the question about evidence. The answer is that they spent a few hundreds of thousands to get computer modelling software for the main routes in the town. The data they have put into the model is the census data you will remember them collecting last year. Next they tune the data to make sure it identifies what is happening today. Then they change the connections by adding in new roads and simulating driver choices, e.g. expected shortest time routes and see what happens. They have to submit the results for each route in the second phase of the business case following the WebTAG guidelines for submission to the DfT. The actual choice should be done objectively on cost benefit analysis unless the first stage consultation just finished throws up something extraordinary or unexpected.
  10. Is this efficiency ?

    I think Asp is making a important point that the overhead contribution, including R&D, is determined by volume and not just labour costs. The point you (Obs) make is valid for direct labour but not indirect labour. Automation in manufacture makes the direct costs go down but indirect costs are unaffected. That is the reason that we are now losing skilled jobs to low cost countries. The Internet allows a lot of skilled work to be done anywhere. Another important issue is Market knowledge and regulation which tends to be market specific and is not as amenable to doing at common point. There comes a point where the country specific costs are so large that it is not worth trading there. That is why big global markets, such as Automotive, work to UN sponsored standards and even the EU and US have to tag along. These things taken together drive globalisation and organisations need to work at multiple scales which only the best and biggest can achieve in both scope and scale.
  11. Central Station Car Park Fine

    The parking bay specifically permits parking. Double yellow lines prohibit parking on the highway, from the centre-line of the carriageway to the edge of the footway, which counts as the highway for legal purposes. Double yellow lines also affect private roads as well as adopted roads, hence why they caught you on the access road. I would suspect though that parking beyond the line of the footway on the access road cannot be considered as covered by the yellow lines. Unfortunately I expect there are gates in just the wrong place.
  12. Maxing out the card -

    How kind of Labour, it was Lord Adonis in a Labour government that inflicted this nonsense upon us in the first place.
  13. What's she got to do ?

    The external insulation and the choice of windows as well as the firebreaks are what I would look at. So far all they have looked at is the weather-screen cladding on the outside. The story of someone trying to open the window to get rid of smoke and finding the window frame melting seems terrifying.
  14. Smart Meters ?

    The point is not the saving or even the cost of meter reading which is less that a pound a year last time I heard. It is to reduce the cost for those on prepayment meters! With smart meters they can not only change tariff under remote control but also between pre and post payment. That means that post payment customers do not have to have a special meter fitted and pay for the privilege. Since there is no extra cost for changing to post-payment there is no justification in charging such customers a higher price per kilowatt because there is no marginal cost to justify it. You will realise that since the money involved often flows from the state to utility shareholders there is a benefit for the state in getting all customers to pay for reducing the burden on the state. Those on low wages also benefit of course but the cost of the meters has to be borne by all consumers and is not negligible. That this was a key concern was evident when the coalition government insisted that the SMETS specification included a gas valve for turning off supply in the pre-payment case. I can think of no other benefit other than the variable tariffs being used to apply demand management. Demand Management being a euphemism for putting up peak electricity prices to the point where people stop using it and go cold ( and possibly die) rather than upsetting the Green Gods by building more power stations that don't only work in lucky weather!
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