boris1066 Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 Are there any hard fast regulations regarding tarmacing/block paving front lawns to provide extra parking ? Kerb let downs required? mandatory ? Environmental Guru's please respond!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 You don't need permission to pave/flag your lawn but you must either get a permit for dropping the kerb or get the council to do it, the former is the much cheaper option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 I see our council have been doing some cheap pavement resurfacing.....sprayed with bitumen mixed with granite dust. It looks ok ,but how long will it last ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Had a bit of a rummage around the web yesterday and it seems that you need to ensure that there is adequate drainage to any paved area at the front of your property. You are not allowed to let the water flow over the footpath into the gutter and if you do not already have a driveway into your property you will need to get the council involved to check that the access is strong enough to get a vehicle over without damaging any underground services.The acronym SUDS cropped up quite a lot but with little or no information as to what it stands for. from the few inadequate descriptins it may have something to do with drainage. worth a look yourself, think i typed "paving a front garden" in my search engine and just went through what came up. In saying that it is a bit vague and the few sites that I looked at were confusing as to what you can and cannot do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Take a look here - https://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/house You need planning permission if you cover more than 5 square meters (which isn't much more than a footpath!) with non-porous materials such as tarmac or concrete if the water run-off is not contained within the property. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boris1066 Posted April 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 That's food for thought ! Thanks for the input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Take a look here - https://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/house You need planning permission if you cover more than 5 square meters (which isn't much more than a footpath!) with non-porous materials such as tarmac or concrete if the water run-off is not contained within the property. I never knew there were rules for doing your front garden and I net most people don't either. I'm still a bit confused though. If you have a drain on your drive to take the run off rain/surface water into the main sewer systems does that mean you so NOT need planning permission then as after all Unitied Utilities charge you for surface water drainage no matter how much it rains or how many downspouts you have ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 No, the run off must be contained within the property by means of directing it into flower beds, a buried soakaway, or similar. The reason you can't send it into the drains is that with the large numbers of new build estates on previous free draining land and huge numbers of front gardens getting paved for parking, the storm drains and the rivers they discharge into wouldn't be able to cope with the surge of run-off in a heavy downpour. There's also the issue that driveways tend to get oil dripped on them, have rubber residues from tyres, soap residues from car washing, and often get weedkillers and other chemicals applied to them. We don't want those things to be washed into the storm drains and be discharged untreated into natural watercourses. Basically, if you cover over land which would have naturally absorbed heavy rain then you must provide alternative means for the rain to soak away naturally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 The council regularly spray along the footpaths with weed killer that will wash into the drains in the street. roads have cars on them and the water from all that rubber washes nto the drains in the street. quite a few cars leak oil when they are be driven as well as stationary which goes onto the road and subsequently washes into the drains in the street. people around where i live wash their cars in the street as they have no offroad parking and the resultant soap residues go into the drains in the street. all of which empty into the storm drains and thus into the natural watercourses and remain untreated. so what is the difference. end of devils advocate roill for this topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 The rules don't have to make sense, they're written by bureaucrats who've never lived in the real world in their lives! But those are the rules and the stated reasoning behind them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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