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Hi Aaron sorry for sending you lots of bits and pieces. I looked at some posts I'd saved from the Warrington group on fb and it jogged my memory that one of the helpers there thought Frances's name previously was Gisborne. I believe we virtually discounted this but I thought you may want to have a look. Talking of looking I hope you don't mind me asking but do you have a photo of Fred and Elizabeth you could either let me have, or scan and email it to me. I have nothing of my grandparents so would love one. Alternatively a pic of any of the older Brooks emailed would be fantastic. Thx just in case Gill

Hi Aaron. I had some trouble getting on here tonight - if I do again I may need to email you. I have quite a few bits of info now to work through on fanny Kinder/broadhurst. I am convinced her name prior to her marriage to Thomas Brooks was Kinder, principally because that is the name which appears as mother on Fred's birth cert and also on Milly's birth cert - I have copies of both. However Broadhurst figures in her name somewhere - either she was married to "Mr Kinder" and her maiden name was Broadhurst or for some other reason which I am not seeing yet. Looking back both of her names show as born in Aston and her dates are reasonably correct. I have parents for Broadhurst if we can tie it together. i had a giggle when you wrote about the four siblings arguing about the spelling of Brooke's (which has always been the way my family have spelt it). Incidentally my father Les worked at Crossfields prior to WW2 and then all his life, although the last few years not in Warrington. I was only aware that he had a brother Fred - who lived in the same road as us - although there was no real contact. He had two children Joan and David (David also worked at Crossfields). We were visited once by Arthur but I didn't know who he was at the time. I am quite interested in Frances' son Ernest as I think he may be the key to her name/s. If he was from a previous marriage it would possibly answer the puzzle. I know he's shown as Brooks in the census but he was four years older than Fred and if we can find him anywhere as Ernest Kinder or Broadhurst it would help a lot. Night for now I'll leave those thoughts with you. Gill

Hi Aaron, you're really challenging the old grey matter! Lol. I belonged to another site years ago and had two Americans helping me when I first started this and they looked up some info for me which was brilliant. Downside is it means scrabbling through piles of bits of paper and various posts. I can't even remember what the site was called now. Also it's a mistake to try and do both sides of your family at once - believe me lol. I had no idea of any info except my father Les's parents were called Fred and Elizabeth so we got their wedding cert. This gave us Elizabeth 's surname (Parker) and both their fathers christian names (Thomas and Samuel) and that they were both dec'd. Fred and Elizabeth (my grandparents) were married 9th April 1916 in St. Elphins Church, Warrington . Also that Thomas had been a stoker and Samuel a labourer. I did send you an email too in case I had trouble sorting this site out if you haven't found it yet. The marr cert did not give us Frances name of course, but we thought easy...we have Thomas...wrong lol! My American friend found Thomas eventually although she read Frances as Terrance - or the transcriber did. After a lot of digging on the net we decided to get Fred's birth cert and also Milly's too which would ensure we had the names etc correct, and the mother is Frances Brooks formerly Kinder on both. We're not on Ancestry - how do you get on the free ancestry? Btw I apologise I think I forgot to list Walter on the list of Brooke's children lol. I've been on BMD, The Mormon site which off the top of my head I think was called Family search or similar and I was quite lucky with Warrington Genealogy group on Facebook if you belong to fb. i need to get fully into the notes and papers I have now so we can compare notes again which I will try and do tomorrow. Some of the info you listed has been very helpful, thx and I know place names for Thomas and Frances coincide with what I have. It's getting late now so I'll call it a day. Your last paragraph confused me a little but I'll try it again tomorrow. Cheers Gill

Hi Aaron, don't get excited at the moment. I'm waiting for my daughter Lisa to pop in prob tomorrow, but I have managed to sort out this site and my password for starters. The name we had for Frances (Fanny) Kinder was Broadhurst, but I've not yet found the paper where we had this. I'm going back ten years of not touching it much! I'm sure it was something to do with Ernest and where they came from. We had a feeling that Ernest was Thomas's stepson and that Fanny was married prior to marrying Thomas, but her name on two birth carts was definitely Kinder, when we were expecting it to be Broadhurst. I will be back!! Gill

BROOKES FAMILY Hi - I'm still trying to sort out my Family Tree! So far I have my Father, LESLIE ALAN BROOKES, his Father and Mother FRED BROOKES & ELIZABETH (PARKER) and their many other children. We then go back to Fred's Father THOMAS BROOKS & his wife FANNY (KINDER), and Elizabeth's parents SAMUEL PARKER & ELIZABETH GUEST. If anyone can give me any info on any of the names, however small, please reply to this post. Thanks loads Gill

Hi WavyDavy, Thanks so much for posting this information for me. I'll check back and see if anybody ties in. Whether it does or not its very kind of you to bother answering my post. I'm sure there must be some connection somewhere, even if its second cousins three times removed!! I'm off to scour the fam.tree again now. Cheers Gill

Hi, I'm trying to do a family tree on my father's side. Around 1889 THOMAS BROOKS married FRANCES (FANNY). Her surname was either BROADHURST or KINDER. This is what I'm actually trying to find out for sure. The couple's definite children were FRED, MILLY AND ELSIE, and I think there were also ERNEST, THOMAS and maybe FRANCES. If anyone has grandparents or great-grandparents with any of these names could you please let me know. Alternatively if there are any genealogy fanatics out there willing to do a search of St. Elphins church records (or any other records they can access - I'd be very grateful. :onfire:

I'm looking for any part of the Brookes family still resident in Warrington. My father was LESLIE BROOKES now deceased and Fred and Elizabeth were my grandparents. They had quite a few children (as far as I can tell from my search doing the family tree). My father worked for Crosfields whilst we lived Warrington and I'm sure his brother and nephew did also. The last address for the grandparents that I have is Lilford Ave. If anybody can help or is related and would like to get in touch, I'd be delighted. thanks. Gill Shaw (nee Brookes)